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	<title>Comments on: OSX Tiger vs. Vista vs. Ubuntu Security: a 15 Point Report Card</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualhosting.com/blog/2007/osx-tiger-vs-vista-vs-ubuntu-security-a-15-point-report-card/#comment-50203</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of my computers ran vista,xp. But i"ve started switching to ubuntu because of the fact that everytime i've tuned around i had crash's on them. With ubuntu i haven't had one crash and really the only problem i've had was the mouse locking up and i'd rather have that problem then haveing to repair Xp.Vista all the time. I've never used a mac so i dont know about it but for MS software i've had enough and i love ubuntu better then xp,vista OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of my computers ran vista,xp. But i&#8221;ve started switching to ubuntu because of the fact that everytime i&#8217;ve tuned around i had crash&#8217;s on them. With ubuntu i haven&#8217;t had one crash and really the only problem i&#8217;ve had was the mouse locking up and i&#8217;d rather have that problem then haveing to repair Xp.Vista all the time. I&#8217;ve never used a mac so i dont know about it but for MS software i&#8217;ve had enough and i love ubuntu better then xp,vista OS.</p>
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		<title>By: indigo196</title>
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		<dc:creator>indigo196</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article was a joke and filled with more mistakes than a eighth grade spelling quiz given to first grade students.

I am not sure how network security on a Mac is complete with 'keychain' while Ubuntu (Linux) falls short with a plethora of 'tools'. I sense that the author is very mis-informed about what the 'network' really is.

The user talks about personal settings in reference to personal files being secured... ok... lets stick to personal security. I can encrypt an entire disk in Vista or I can encrypt just a portion of the files system. They must have missed the option to encrypt folders that is gotten to by hitting the advanced button on a folders properties 'general' tab. For a note if you use folder encryption like the Mac your files are accessible because of ram, ram slack and virtual memory.

Safari as a default browser is potentially the worse pick of the bunch. It was the reason that the Mac was pwned in the pwn2own contest.

Sorry... but while the overall conclusion might be right the evidence given is in some cases clearly false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article was a joke and filled with more mistakes than a eighth grade spelling quiz given to first grade students.</p>
<p>I am not sure how network security on a Mac is complete with &#8216;keychain&#8217; while Ubuntu (Linux) falls short with a plethora of &#8216;tools&#8217;. I sense that the author is very mis-informed about what the &#8216;network&#8217; really is.</p>
<p>The user talks about personal settings in reference to personal files being secured&#8230; ok&#8230; lets stick to personal security. I can encrypt an entire disk in Vista or I can encrypt just a portion of the files system. They must have missed the option to encrypt folders that is gotten to by hitting the advanced button on a folders properties &#8216;general&#8217; tab. For a note if you use folder encryption like the Mac your files are accessible because of ram, ram slack and virtual memory.</p>
<p>Safari as a default browser is potentially the worse pick of the bunch. It was the reason that the Mac was pwned in the pwn2own contest.</p>
<p>Sorry&#8230; but while the overall conclusion might be right the evidence given is in some cases clearly false.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 00:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people forget is that really Linux servers run most of the internet. So the fact is that Linux is battle tested and hardended against any type of malware/hacker threats. With it's rapid kernel development and security updates its very well suited to high performance secure cloud computing. Linux, Open Source development and the internet is going to kill alot of proprietary software -making it into a mere commodity.  No way I'm trusting my important data to anything but (Ubuntu) Linux on desktop and server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people forget is that really Linux servers run most of the internet. So the fact is that Linux is battle tested and hardended against any type of malware/hacker threats. With it&#8217;s rapid kernel development and security updates its very well suited to high performance secure cloud computing. Linux, Open Source development and the internet is going to kill alot of proprietary software -making it into a mere commodity.  No way I&#8217;m trusting my important data to anything but (Ubuntu) Linux on desktop and server.</p>
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		<title>By: web hosting</title>
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		<dc:creator>web hosting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In naming the iPhone the best invention of 2007, you forgot about Windows-based PDA phones. They’ve been out for years. Touch interface? Big deal. As you noted, it’s been done before. A miniaturized operating system? Done. Windows-based phones are everything the iPhone is and more. The phones can text, MMS, e-mail (through POP, IMAP, Exchange), surf the real Web at broadband speed on EVDO networks and open, edit and save documents. The iPhone is for kids. Windows Mobile PDA phones are for adults who need to do real work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In naming the iPhone the best invention of 2007, you forgot about Windows-based PDA phones. They’ve been out for years. Touch interface? Big deal. As you noted, it’s been done before. A miniaturized operating system? Done. Windows-based phones are everything the iPhone is and more. The phones can text, MMS, e-mail (through POP, IMAP, Exchange), surf the real Web at broadband speed on EVDO networks and open, edit and save documents. The iPhone is for kids. Windows Mobile PDA phones are for adults who need to do real work.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mac's score seems to be on the dot. Vista seems inconsistent as it was sometimes too high or low. Ubuntu was a little too generous. Considering a lot of work has to be done, it got higher scores when the same criteria had to be applied to Vista.

I use Vista and Ubuntu, both at home and at work. I will admit that Ubuntu is faster to use that Vista. Vista is a turtle compared to XP. But I don't think Ubuntu score should be higher at this point in time. Probably with the release of 8.04. At best it is at par with Vista when all the scores are taken in to consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mac&#8217;s score seems to be on the dot. Vista seems inconsistent as it was sometimes too high or low. Ubuntu was a little too generous. Considering a lot of work has to be done, it got higher scores when the same criteria had to be applied to Vista.</p>
<p>I use Vista and Ubuntu, both at home and at work. I will admit that Ubuntu is faster to use that Vista. Vista is a turtle compared to XP. But I don&#8217;t think Ubuntu score should be higher at this point in time. Probably with the release of 8.04. At best it is at par with Vista when all the scores are taken in to consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Mac OS is built for "simple people" and it "can't do very much."  Maybe this computer geek is a bit out of sync with the times!  The US Army is now undergoing a multi-billion dollar program of taking ALL of their computers (nationally and internationally) OFF Microsoft Vista because of Hackers and the Chinese/Soviet governments whose   repeated attempts against our National Security has brought to the US government attention to our need for more "secure OS systems".  The US Army (the other armed forces will follow the pattern of the Army) is utilizing a mixture of Linux and Mac computers because of the safety record of the Unix server and as a means to keep the computer hackers           at bay!  I can speak from personal  experience of the "jack of all trades..    the Microsoft experience, be it Windows XP or Vista!  I have purchased my FIRST computer five years ago and invested in almost $500.00 worth of security software programs which were clearly broke into, one right after another by "professional hackers".  When I purchased my Mac computer I have had "attempts" but these attempts were brought to my attention by my computer's programs or by my attention to ongoing background programs/applications.  I would NEVER, EVER, EVER, change to a PC again!  I do not care about the "jack of all trades mentality!.  I only know that from MY personal experience that when you try cover ALL tracks you become the "personal target" of many hackers, especially those with criminal intent.  I will surely forego the many uses of Microsoft for the SECURITY that Macs provide for their users!  It has been mentioned in many PC magazines that the initial purpose of Microsoft Windows XP or Vista is for "availability for ALL" and "relative ease for everyone."    The basis of Macs is for personal security (along with Ubuntu!)  Because of the "availability for ALL"; (Microsoft Windows XP or Vista) it also has meant "relatively easy for hackers to access!  

Trying to be easily accessible to everyone and trying to cover as many applications/programs has its drawbacks!  When "accessability to all" takes preponderance to security is when the majority of people start to turning to "simpler" OS systems or open source OS systems.  It is estimated that as of 2007 that 42-45% of today's business has given up
Microsoft and turned to either Linux or Mac.  That percentage will continually be going up with the increasing threat of Identity theft, hackers, and mostly by malware!  Bill Gates said that the magnitute of malware was such that even Microsoft could not address the personal/corporation safety and that the only way to keep the threat of malware at a minimum, keep it "at bay" was to totally erase and reformat the computer system(s) at a monthly basis.  Really!  and how do YOU think most companies small or large would respond to that suggestion?  For business, time is money and the idea of having to do this on a monthly basis would be a costly endeavor!  I am afraid that the "easy accessability features" and the "Jack of all trades" of Microsoft has led to relative ease from hackers to access corporate files as well as potential ID theft from relatively insecure servers.  

The old saying goes..."If its not broken don't try to fix it."  It IS because of its simplistic emphasis on security from the ground up and its use of the Unix Server that BOTH MACS AND LINUX are continuing to grow within the business community and the Armed Forces.

Sadly, it seems that the last people to know about the growing trend away from Microsoft is the public at large.  You know, those who use home PCs, those who use laptops, and those who use wireless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Mac OS is built for &#8220;simple people&#8221; and it &#8220;can&#8217;t do very much.&#8221;  Maybe this computer geek is a bit out of sync with the times!  The US Army is now undergoing a multi-billion dollar program of taking ALL of their computers (nationally and internationally) OFF Microsoft Vista because of Hackers and the Chinese/Soviet governments whose   repeated attempts against our National Security has brought to the US government attention to our need for more &#8220;secure OS systems&#8221;.  The US Army (the other armed forces will follow the pattern of the Army) is utilizing a mixture of Linux and Mac computers because of the safety record of the Unix server and as a means to keep the computer hackers           at bay!  I can speak from personal  experience of the &#8220;jack of all trades..    the Microsoft experience, be it Windows XP or Vista!  I have purchased my FIRST computer five years ago and invested in almost $500.00 worth of security software programs which were clearly broke into, one right after another by &#8220;professional hackers&#8221;.  When I purchased my Mac computer I have had &#8220;attempts&#8221; but these attempts were brought to my attention by my computer&#8217;s programs or by my attention to ongoing background programs/applications.  I would NEVER, EVER, EVER, change to a PC again!  I do not care about the &#8220;jack of all trades mentality!.  I only know that from MY personal experience that when you try cover ALL tracks you become the &#8220;personal target&#8221; of many hackers, especially those with criminal intent.  I will surely forego the many uses of Microsoft for the SECURITY that Macs provide for their users!  It has been mentioned in many PC magazines that the initial purpose of Microsoft Windows XP or Vista is for &#8220;availability for ALL&#8221; and &#8220;relative ease for everyone.&#8221;    The basis of Macs is for personal security (along with Ubuntu!)  Because of the &#8220;availability for ALL&#8221;; (Microsoft Windows XP or Vista) it also has meant &#8220;relatively easy for hackers to access!  </p>
<p>Trying to be easily accessible to everyone and trying to cover as many applications/programs has its drawbacks!  When &#8220;accessability to all&#8221; takes preponderance to security is when the majority of people start to turning to &#8220;simpler&#8221; OS systems or open source OS systems.  It is estimated that as of 2007 that 42-45% of today&#8217;s business has given up<br />
Microsoft and turned to either Linux or Mac.  That percentage will continually be going up with the increasing threat of Identity theft, hackers, and mostly by malware!  Bill Gates said that the magnitute of malware was such that even Microsoft could not address the personal/corporation safety and that the only way to keep the threat of malware at a minimum, keep it &#8220;at bay&#8221; was to totally erase and reformat the computer system(s) at a monthly basis.  Really!  and how do YOU think most companies small or large would respond to that suggestion?  For business, time is money and the idea of having to do this on a monthly basis would be a costly endeavor!  I am afraid that the &#8220;easy accessability features&#8221; and the &#8220;Jack of all trades&#8221; of Microsoft has led to relative ease from hackers to access corporate files as well as potential ID theft from relatively insecure servers.  </p>
<p>The old saying goes&#8230;&#8221;If its not broken don&#8217;t try to fix it.&#8221;  It IS because of its simplistic emphasis on security from the ground up and its use of the Unix Server that BOTH MACS AND LINUX are continuing to grow within the business community and the Armed Forces.</p>
<p>Sadly, it seems that the last people to know about the growing trend away from Microsoft is the public at large.  You know, those who use home PCs, those who use laptops, and those who use wireless!</p>
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		<title>By: d503</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualhosting.com/blog/2007/osx-tiger-vs-vista-vs-ubuntu-security-a-15-point-report-card/#comment-23121</link>
		<dc:creator>d503</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, how much Apple pay you for this?

It's common knowledge that Linux based distributions (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) are more secure than windows or Mac OS.

Fedora, for instance, is used by NASA. So, I guess, is quite good.

Almost all big corporations are running on UNIX, so the question will be why they don't use MS or Mac OS. First their price is overrated, second their security sucks. Even better UNIX is open so if you are a big corporation all you have to do is hire few programmers and you will have fully customized OS, build for your own needs and with brand new security system.

p.s. The future is in open software, so it would be better to learn Linux now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, how much Apple pay you for this?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s common knowledge that Linux based distributions (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) are more secure than windows or Mac OS.</p>
<p>Fedora, for instance, is used by NASA. So, I guess, is quite good.</p>
<p>Almost all big corporations are running on UNIX, so the question will be why they don&#8217;t use MS or Mac OS. First their price is overrated, second their security sucks. Even better UNIX is open so if you are a big corporation all you have to do is hire few programmers and you will have fully customized OS, build for your own needs and with brand new security system.</p>
<p>p.s. The future is in open software, so it would be better to learn Linux now.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at the very least this "review" certainly clears up any doubts as to the bias of VirtualHosting.com !  I appreciate the transparency so I don't need to waste any time in the future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at the very least this &#8220;review&#8221; certainly clears up any doubts as to the bias of VirtualHosting.com !  I appreciate the transparency so I don&#8217;t need to waste any time in the future!</p>
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		<title>By: Da Xue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da Xue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levels of Protection is the key word for this article.  It's not focus on security but rather security through obscurity.  I don't recommend consumers purchase computers based on these assessments made by Laura because numerous elements are potential pitfalls.  

First Ubuntu is reserved for people who are good with shell.  With Linux there is no GUI substitute for many things, leaving shell commands as the only option.  Second, Linux's variety of names will confuse most consumers.  And lastly, Ubuntu is not packaged for most PC with all the core components such as drivers and supporting software for the hardware.  Support for third party software is minimal at best.

With respect to Mac OS X, it is clearly built for simple people who want to interact with technology.  There aren't complicated commands nor confusing control panels.  Everything just works...in certain environments.  For the home office, Mac OS X is good for typing and printing the occasional documents, email, IM, google, youtube, and media but it's usefulness is limited to that.  There is some selection in games and applications but it is neither complete nor are the subsystems capable of running such intense software. Another limitation is that OS X supports a limited peripheral base.

Windows is the jack of all trades.  While it is not the best in any specific category, it's the best overall.  It is a compromise between complete customization and controlled customization.  Many of the security issues mentioned in this article are a non-issue.  Users are by far the weakest flaw in the security chain.  Windows has been tested in rigorous server and desktop environments by almost all companies while Mac OS X cannot even make a penetration into that world due to its fundamental limitations.  As for browsers and third party software, the market leader gets to dictate the path.  More websites are compatible with IE than Firefox.  It's as simple as that.  Microsoft can be idealistic and create browsers like Safari but it would be nothing less than a mental exercise since it is horrible to waste the precious time of developers like Apple does with every generation of Mac OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levels of Protection is the key word for this article.  It&#8217;s not focus on security but rather security through obscurity.  I don&#8217;t recommend consumers purchase computers based on these assessments made by Laura because numerous elements are potential pitfalls.  </p>
<p>First Ubuntu is reserved for people who are good with shell.  With Linux there is no GUI substitute for many things, leaving shell commands as the only option.  Second, Linux&#8217;s variety of names will confuse most consumers.  And lastly, Ubuntu is not packaged for most PC with all the core components such as drivers and supporting software for the hardware.  Support for third party software is minimal at best.</p>
<p>With respect to Mac OS X, it is clearly built for simple people who want to interact with technology.  There aren&#8217;t complicated commands nor confusing control panels.  Everything just works&#8230;in certain environments.  For the home office, Mac OS X is good for typing and printing the occasional documents, email, IM, google, youtube, and media but it&#8217;s usefulness is limited to that.  There is some selection in games and applications but it is neither complete nor are the subsystems capable of running such intense software. Another limitation is that OS X supports a limited peripheral base.</p>
<p>Windows is the jack of all trades.  While it is not the best in any specific category, it&#8217;s the best overall.  It is a compromise between complete customization and controlled customization.  Many of the security issues mentioned in this article are a non-issue.  Users are by far the weakest flaw in the security chain.  Windows has been tested in rigorous server and desktop environments by almost all companies while Mac OS X cannot even make a penetration into that world due to its fundamental limitations.  As for browsers and third party software, the market leader gets to dictate the path.  More websites are compatible with IE than Firefox.  It&#8217;s as simple as that.  Microsoft can be idealistic and create browsers like Safari but it would be nothing less than a mental exercise since it is horrible to waste the precious time of developers like Apple does with every generation of Mac OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Disappointed Researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disappointed Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura certainly does not come across as an unbiased reviewer of OS. How does giving the user the option to update or not a handicap? I personally would like to know what is happening in the background of my system. Neither do I like my internet becoming slow due to unknown downloads in the background and sudden requests to reboot to install all the downloaded updates. If taking the choice out of user's hands is being a better OS.....

Under personal settings, the reviewer says that Windows security is bad because it only has password protection, that really is not a bad security at all. Anyone worried about the security of the data will ensure the password protection is hack-proof. 

Macscan being better than Defender, I can quote plenty of credible security reviewers who rate Windows Defender as the best security tool. If nothing else, I will say that both Tiger and Vista are comparable in this point. 

I have noticed that on every point Vista has fared near the bottom in comparison (barring one or two points where the reviewer really could not find anything negative to say). 

It is one of the most biased review between OS that I have read. 

I am not commenting on Ubuntu as I have never used it or read about it. But keeping in mind the treatment meted out to Tiger and Vista I do not think I will accept any rating given by this reviewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura certainly does not come across as an unbiased reviewer of OS. How does giving the user the option to update or not a handicap? I personally would like to know what is happening in the background of my system. Neither do I like my internet becoming slow due to unknown downloads in the background and sudden requests to reboot to install all the downloaded updates. If taking the choice out of user&#8217;s hands is being a better OS&#8230;..</p>
<p>Under personal settings, the reviewer says that Windows security is bad because it only has password protection, that really is not a bad security at all. Anyone worried about the security of the data will ensure the password protection is hack-proof. </p>
<p>Macscan being better than Defender, I can quote plenty of credible security reviewers who rate Windows Defender as the best security tool. If nothing else, I will say that both Tiger and Vista are comparable in this point. </p>
<p>I have noticed that on every point Vista has fared near the bottom in comparison (barring one or two points where the reviewer really could not find anything negative to say). </p>
<p>It is one of the most biased review between OS that I have read. </p>
<p>I am not commenting on Ubuntu as I have never used it or read about it. But keeping in mind the treatment meted out to Tiger and Vista I do not think I will accept any rating given by this reviewer.</p>
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